Ok so here we go on our 8th expedition. In this episode we peer into the dark shadows of the human predicament. But fear not for we have Ben Stewart the creator of the 'Esoteric Agenda' video on board. He shares his insights on how to look into this shadowy realm and see its purpose and its potential. Before that starts and after some typical Psychonautical poetic ramblings, I read a short segment from Neil Kramer's blog 'The Cleaver' called 'Demystifying Illuminist Power Structures'. http://thecleaver.blogspot.com/2008/05/demystifying-illuminist-power.html Ben Stewart and I talked for quite awhile so only the first part of our conversation is on this podcast and the rest will be on the next expedition. Which will be coming out a lot sooner than they have been in the past. We are mainly talking about the nature of the search. What it takes to look into this realm and really not so much about what is to be found. I feel that most of the listeners to this podcast are just as we are truth seekers. Fearlessly looking into the dark and mysterious places within and without. So this conversation is really just two trackers speaking of the landscape, the hazards of the trail and the passions of a seeker. http://www.talismanicidols.org/video.html